- √ - Illuminating only when it is dark

[makki]

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You are kind of a massochist, spending time & effort for a lost cause

Everyone doing HA nowadays is IMHO a masochist I won't go into details now

I don't understand why you still use the menu ?

I understand that. really: There are some people out there who just want a visu for xyz, no matter what it looks like or what its based on.. As simple as possible without having a "sehenscheidentzündung" to create it and - don't care how it looks. The HS-menu (if it wouldn't be much too limited) could be close to that.
Anyway, I'm one of these guys understanding this, although it will still take some time -> we're working on it

Makki

[Warichet]

I don't understand why you still use the menu ?

Oh well, old dogs tend to follow known path

[Taxus]

Hi Raymond,

I am happy that it works now. Never give up!

Creating a Symbol (or e.g. a box) is *the* convenient way to access the UZSU via the visu. I don't understand why you still use the menu ?

[Warichet]

Hi Rainer,

Just to be sure ....
Your procedure to start by defining an icon is just a convenient way to access the UZSU details, right ?
If it has no other functionality, the icon can be deleted. Now that I start to understand the process (better late than never ) I could do the same procedure via the "Menü" to access the UZSU details.

Thanks again

[Warichet]

Hi Tobias,

You get the "Sonnenaufgang" and "Sonnenuntergang" if you go into the window where you input the time (in your picture "08:00 Heure"). And there do not input a time directly, but click the right button in footbar.

YAAA, that was it
Thank you

Hi Rainer,

I replaced the standard icons in the ...\Projekte\<Projekt>\ico - directory by the ones I found in the newer sample files (muster*).

ûûh, clever trick. You got me

When you set the 'heure' you will find the icon attached in the lower right corner. Klick there! Here you will find the options mentioned above.

Got it ! Thank you.
I noticed that I got the text in french !?! although I didn't ask for it. Maybe the locale of Windows set the language to french.

Going back to the beginning... you said I don't need any Baustein anymore, OK, I understand those functionalities are now integrated in the Experte.
I'll clean-up my mess and try to make something usefull

Thank you for your patience while teaching an old dog a new trick

Psst: I wondered how this could work without the coordinates, but find out they are in Projekeinstellungen, Koordinaten. Obviously, this must be filled in. Worth mentionning for other readers.

[Taxus]

I get the UZSU menu -> 4 & 5, but it's no way close to your screenshots.

... How come you've otions like Sonnenaufgang and Sonnenuntergang, which I don't have (at least can't see them) ?

Hi Raymond,
let us take off the sunglasses:

Everything is fine. You were just fooled by my design, I'm sorry. Once upon a time I replaced the standard icons in the ...\Projekte\<Projekt>\ico - directory by the ones I found in the newer sample files (muster*). -

Ok. But the design doesn't matter for the functionality. When you set the 'heure' you will find the icon attached in the lower right corner. Klick there! Here you will find the options mentioned above.

If not - pls give me another try, then I will restore my ico-directory and create a new set of screenshots in 'old fashioned look'.

[TobiasK]

Hello,

I have the same design like you.

You get the "Sonnenaufgang" and "Sonnenuntergang" if you go into the window where you input the time (in your picture "08:00 Heure"). And there do not input a time directly, but click the right button in footbar.

There you should have something like "Sonnenaufgang"....


mfg

Tobias

[Warichet]

You’ve got some screenshots from me, please give me some in return:

OK, OK, if you take it that way, I'll do it.
You are kind of a massochist, spending time & effort for a lost cause

> tabsheet ‘Symbol’ -> 1
> tabsheet ‘Universal-Zeitschaltuhr’ -> 2
Zeitschaltuhr details -> 3
> Client (or Browser): what happens, when you klick the symbol?
I get the UZSU menu -> 4 & 5, but it's no way close to your screenshots.

Are we talking about the same stuff ?!?
I've HS2, Experte 2.5, no QC, xxAPI 1.0, UZSU experience=0
Either we are not talking about the same stuff, or you've done some "magic" with your UZSU menu.
How come it is black and looks like a QC display ?
How come you've otions like Sonnenaufgang and Sonnenuntergang, which I don't have (at least can't see them) ?
Have you loaded some extra modules to enable those features ?

[Taxus]

... For me, it's like doing a puzzle with pieces from another play, obviously they will never fit.

I give up !

Don't give up . Maybe it is a puzzle, but there can’t be more than one tiny piece missing.

You’ve got some screenshots from me, please give me some in return:
- Experte, properties of your created Symbol, tabsheet ‘Symbol’
- Experte, properties of your created Symbol, tabsheet ‘Universal-Zeitschaltuhr’
- Client (or Browser): what happens, when you klick the symbol?

[Warichet]

Real programmers don't do documentation.

Grmbl, I think I've heard this before

But it is quite easy:.

It might be me being more dumb then the average

All I want is to enable the light be switched on when it is dark (so depending on the sun's position.

Do you think the output "Höhe" will do the job ?
If there is any postive number there, the sun is present and I disable the lights on.
If there is 0 or any negative number there, the sun is absent and I enable the lights on.
Is that correct ?

I see there are 2 other Baustein Sonneuntergang and Sonneaufgang, which have to be combined for a 24Hr cycle.
Any chance the logic below is correct ?

[MatthiasS]

Real programmers don't do documentation

Sorry, there is none.

But it is quite easy: It shows the location of the sun (azimuth and elevation).

Regarding elevation, there is a trigger output: Normally its getting dark if sun sets There are different grades of darkness according to the angle of the sun below the horizon. These angles are called:

Crépuscule nautique [modifier]




Près du crépuscule au Mexique.


Le crépuscule nautique est la période où le centre du Soleil est situé entre 6° et 12° sous l'horizon.
Il s'agit du moment où les étoiles de deuxième grandeur deviennent visibles ; en même temps, en mer, la ligne d'horizon est toujours visible permettant ainsi de faire un point astronomique avec les étoiles. À la fin de cette période, en soirée, ou à son début, en matinée, les dernières ou premières lueurs peuvent être discernées dans la direction du Soleil.
Crépuscule astronomique [modifier]

Le crépuscule astronomique est la période où le centre du Soleil est situé entre 12° et 18° sous l'horizon.
Pendant le crépuscule astronomique, et dans le cas d'un ciel dégagé de toute pollution lumineuse, les étoiles les plus faibles visibles à l'œil nu, vers la magnitude apparente 6, apparaissent. Du point de vue astronomique, il subsiste cependant suffisamment de lumière pour que les objets diffus comme les nébuleuses ou les galaxies ne puissent pas être observés dans des conditions satisfaisantes, même si cette lumière est imperceptible à l'œil nu.
Le soir, la fin du crépuscule astronomique marque le début de la nuit complète ; le matin, c'est la fin de la nuit, l'apparition des toutes premières lueurs de l'aube.


Zitat Wikipedia


So the trigger output in my logic module is set to 6° by default. Depending on your location it could be necessary to enter a differnt angle.

[Warichet]

19820 SonnePur from MatthiasS. It even has a customizable Twilight-Output, where you can parametrize the angle below zero.

Do you have a pointer to the help file of that Baustein, please ?

[Warichet]

Did you assign an existing UZSU in the Tabsheet "Universal-Zeitschaltuhr", e.g. "UZSU WWSLT" ?
Then upload your Project and klick the newly created symbol. Voilà!

I'm happy to know it works for you.
For me, it's like doing a puzzle with pieces from another play, obviously they will never fit.

I give up !

[lobo]

What about adding WWSLT to the List of Abbreviations???

Cheers Stefan
p.s.: just kidding

[Taxus]

Did you assign an existing UZSU in the Tabsheet "Universal-Zeitschaltuhr", e.g. "UZSU WWSLT" ?
Then upload your Project and klick the newly created symbol. Voilà!