Bosch/Junkers/Buderus KNX 10 product file

[Jeecha]

Looks like ETS product database for Bosch/Junkers/Buderus KNX 10 gateway is no longer available for download from Bosch/Junkers/Buderus websites. In fact they have removed ALL information (apart from old press-releases) that they ever had KNX interface.

Maybe someone here still has latest .knxprod file still available?
Really not looking forward to dealing with Bosch support on this, they have not been too helpful before...

[scw2wi]

Die wollen keine proprietären Systeme wie Modbus oder KNX mehr supporten, sondern nur mehr ihre "offene" Cloud Lösung. Diese Aussage findet man zumindest auf ihrer Homepage. Wenn man bei einer ihrer Präsentationen nach KNX fragt, dann bekommt man nur die verächtliche Antwort: "KNX kann fast nix". Das wird ihnen vermutlich in internen Schulungen eingetrichtert. Ich hab jedenfalls diese 3 Marken in meiner Auswahlliste dick durchgestrichen.

[Jeecha]

After a lot more digging on the new Bosch Home Comfort website managed to find it. This looks like some of what used to be available on www.buderus.com/knx.

Bosch Gateway KNX 10 | Bosch Home Comfort - scroll down and the bottom there's links to the knxprod downloads.
ETS4 zip file contains 20160713Bosch_TT_KNX10_knxprod.knxprod, which imported OK in ETS6.

If anyone has a newer version of the product file, please let me know.

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WARNING!!!

If anyone is choosing a new heating system (gas boiler or heat pump) for their home - Bosch/Junkers/Buderus is probably NOT the right choice if you want to integrate that into KNX home.

"Bosch Home Comfort no longer has KNX in its product range, but we are happy to provide information in this guide for all existing customers who use the system in their own home."

Bosch no longer cares about any type of integration into KNX and is pushing their own cloud solution with proprietary APIs and phone apps. If you choose any of their newer heating products, integrating them into KNX will require use of custom third party hardware (for example Gateway E32 V2 (Ethernet + WiFi Edition V2) – BBQKees Electronics) AND/OR a lot of tinkering and use reverse-engineered API plugins in Home Assistant/OpenHAB.

[Jeecha]

Die wollen keine proprietären Systeme wie Modbus oder KNX mehr supporten, sondern nur mehr ihre "offene" Cloud Lösung. Diese Aussage findet man zumindest auf ihrer Homepage. Wenn man bei einer ihrer Präsentationen nach KNX fragt, dann bekommt man nur die verächtliche Antwort: "KNX kann fast nix". Das wird ihnen vermutlich in internen Schulungen eingetrichtert. Ich hab jedenfalls diese 3 Marken in meiner Auswahlliste dick durchgestrichen.

Yes, I am aware of this. Sadly I already have a home with their gas boiler for underfloor heating and hot water, which was installed 3 years ago. Luckily it already included MB LAN2 module (which is also no longer officially available from Bosch), so the heating system is accessible from phone and some of the data can also be accessed using Python library. The problem, however, is that this requires A LOT of tinkering to achieve any kind of useful control and also adds Home Assistant (or another smart home server) as a failure point.

I was going to go either KNX->HomeAssistant->MBLAN2 or KNX->HomeAssistant->bbqkees EMS2 gateway, but then I found a KNX 10 module for sale, so that should be easier

Sorry for replying in English.