HS/FS Trigger action when motion detected on IP camera

[Dries]

Hi,

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't find it on this forum.

I'm going to buy 2 IP-camera's, to monitor the surroundings of my home. I haven't decided on the brand/type of camera. But what I want to realise is I can use "motion detected" as a triggering mechanism in my Gira HS.

Examples:
* When motion detected - turn on light in front yard;
* When motion detected - take snapshot and save in camera archive;
Optionally: if a certain brightness treshold has been reached (e.g. 200 lux) - turn on light in front yard;

Can this be done with any IP camera? Or do I need to pick a certain brand/type?

Can anyone share experience of realising this with their HS? Feel free to respond in German (and apologies for me not being able to write in German).

Thanks!

[eckerho1]

Hi

There are IP cams available which can trigger a digital output when motion is detected.
This digital output can be conneted to a binary input on the KNX and then used by any logic on the HS.

But:
- to turn on the lights I would not rely on a IP Cam, better use a BWM.
- lots of IP cams have a integrated email function, no HS necessary

Gruss, Holger

[Dries]

Hi,

Thank you for your input!

I know a BWM is better for motion detection. But I don't want to install both a BWM and an IP-camera (and I really want the IP camera).

You mention that some IP camera's can trigger a digital output:
* Which one? I assume all Axis/Mobotix IP camera's have this?
* How do I integrate this digital output to a logic in my HS?

[eckerho1]

Hi
This digital output can be conneted to a binary input on the KNX and then used by any logic on the HS.

Gruss, Holger

[Dries]

Hi,
Thank you, I've read that in your first reply. I was just wandering 'how' to do this (sorry if this is considered as a beginners question).

[eckerho1]

Hi

You should conect a binary interface eg:
MDT BE-02001.01 Tasterinterface 2-fach, UP, Eingänge potentialfrei-BE-02001.01
to the contact on the IP cam.

Assign the GA of this contact to a KO which is then interpreted by a logic on the HS.

Gruss, Holger

[Dries]

Hi,
Thank you! This is clear now, and I realise that with this solution you don't even need the HS for many functions (e.g. "turn on lights").

However, unfortunately I'm having trouble with wiring... I have only foreseen an UTP cable to where I want to place my IP camera (who needs power via POE). So I was hoping that an IP camera would be able to send a command over the regular IP-network (my intranet), which could be picked up by the HomeServer. Foreseeing another cable to that location would be hard...

Would that be possible?

[eckerho1]

Hi

Lots of things are possible....
But I would never implement this in a productive environment.
My recommendation is to feed a wire for the binary input in parallel to the network cable.


Configute the IP Cam to send a email to the HS when motion is detected.

Configure a IP telegram receiver, which has configured as a sender the IP of the cam, and as port SMTP (25) to a iKO onthe HS

Define a logic which is triggered by this iKO.

Cheers, Holger

[Dries]

Hi,

Perfect, this is exactly what I needed! I'll manage to set up the integration.

You say you would use this in a productive environment, could you explain why? Did you have bad experiences with this? Reliability issues? On what level?

Thanks,

Dries

[eckerho1]

Hi

I said "I would never implement this in a productive environment"

Reason:
This is bricolage

Gruss, Holger

[Dries]

Hi Holger,
I understood it correctly, but my reply should have been:

You say you would *not* use this in a productive environment, could you explain why? Did you have bad experiences with this? Reliability issues? On what level?

[Dries]

Hi Holger,
Did you ever successfully set up an integration between the Gira HS and a IP camera as you explained earlier?

I configured my D-Link DCS 5222L to send an e-mail to my Gira HS (using the IP of the Gira HS as the SMTP server). However, the Gira HS does not seem to pick this up...

Thanks for your input!

[eckerho1]

Hi
Dis you tell the HS to listen to port 25?

And no, I never did it this way.

Cheers, Holger

[Claus.Mallorca]

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Hi,



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* Which one? I assume all Axis/Mobotix IP camera's have this?
* How do I integrate this digital output to a logic in my HS?

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[Dries]

Hi
Dis you tell the HS to listen to port 25?

And no, I never did it this way.

Cheers, Holger

Wel, I told my webcam to use as SMTP server the IP adress of my Gira HS, and as port I specified another port (9100). In "Receive EIB/IP Telegrams" I told my Gira HS to listen on that port. In the tab "Receive" I choose "any type of data". In the tab commands I configured the light switching (for testing).

But this didn't help.

Alternatively, I told my webcam to send a snapshot of the image to an FTP server (again: IP of the Gira HS). But same outcome: doesn't work.

@Claus.Mallorca: thank you for your input. However, I already bought my webcam. I've looked at your spec-page, and I see "HTTP-Befehl versenden". This is probably what I need, correct? Do you have more info?