Cisco 7970 + Asterisk + HS + Visu

[Warichet]

I'm using a Cisco CallManager Express with about six 797x and some more 7961 and 7911 at home and for some testing purposes the big one (CallManager), too

I know almost nothing about those CallManager. I've concentrated my learning effort on the 7970 with the SIP image, as those phones are used in an Asterisk network. Usually, the CallManager client have an SCCP image.... so it might not fit ...
Also, the major effort was to harness the phone programming stuff, but I may not complain, as I've been seriously warned in the early steps.
Never give up, persist !

But I never got such steps, which you did.

Oh well, I couldn't have done it alone, but ... with a little help of my friends and with my aptidude to bother people up to a point of no return

One more difference to my infrastructure is, that I do not want to use "eidb". I like to use my FacilityServer only.

ûûûh ?!? and how are you going to achieve this ? You need some kind of API or KNX primitives to lauch your KNX request against.
I surely would love to do it that way, but didn't find any way.
I'm curious.

Maybe we could exchange some informations via eMail

You're welcome.
So you are among the 2,5 people on planet earth, interested in a KNX Visu on a Cisco phone ?

PS: just added a last item on the phone menu: a news feed based on a RSS news feed.

[goeran]

Hello Raimond,

An example of what can be done with a Cisco IPPhone (usefull for the crowd of Cisco IPPhone owners )

Uuhhh!
How can it be, that I've not recognized this thread up to now, when I'm on vacation.

I started working on this topic quite a year ago, but I'm using a Cisco CallManager Express with about six 797x and some more 7961 and 7911 at home and for some testing purposes the big one (CallManager), too.

For some reasons I've stopped working in this topic, because some other projects had to be done. But I never got such steps, which you did. Your display shots are very nice and are on the way I like.

One more difference to my infrastructure is, that I do not want to use "eidb". I like to use my FacilityServer only.

Maybe we could exchange some informations via eMail or PM, when I'm back in Germany in the first week of may.

[Warichet]

Hi,

Digging up an old topic.

An example of what can be done with a Cisco IPPhone (usefull for the crowd of Cisco IPPhone owners )
The telephone part has been done via a flat file (extract from a db to CSV, but no SQL stuff).
The Meteo part has been done via a RSS feed.
The KNX part has been done with the help of eibd, re-using the same icones and structure as in the HS Visu.

Special thanks to Makki, Jef2000 and MKoegler for their kind help and patience with a newbee.

[Warichet]

I've just managed to switch on a lamp with a Cisco phone.

Anyone wants to test it ?
If yes, please send PN.

[Warichet]

Hi,

I've just managed to switch on a lamp with a Cisco phone.
Still much to do ...

[makki]

So, you are brave Disclaimer again, mainly for the archives:
[Wichtig]don't try this at home unless you know what you're doing[/Wichtig]
it is neither very supported nor (at least with my current knowledge) very recommended!
I'd suggest to get a TP-UART BTM as I just described and use this to get eibd onto the bus and leave your HS operational with the FT1.2.

Otherwise, having that said:
- make sure multicast gets through your switch(es) & routers (I know you have Cisco, I haven't got it to work until I disabled all the fancy stuff with "no igmp snopping"

- you start eibd with "eibd -R -S -D -i -T -d -u -c ft12:/dev/ttyS0"
(enables anything)
- configure your HS "Projekt->EIB" for EIBnet/IP Routing, Telegramme begrenzen: 6 (maybe more work, 20 i.e. no limit doesn't - more scan errors)

Thats all, I still got scan errors but haven't looked on this further. HS uses my FT1.2 now again, eibd TP-UART.
Means: don't do it I haven't digged further on this, somewhere, at least with the startup-scan of the HS there's a problem. Although i.e. using ETS to program over eibd works fine.

Makki

[Warichet]

use eibd as KNXnet/IP Routing Server for the HS

for this you start "eibd -i -R <backend>" (or enable all with "eibd -S -D -i -T -c -d -u <backend>"

Supposing: 10.0.1.249 is the HS and 10.0.0.23 is the eibd server,
what would be the command to start eibd and to issue a groupswrite ?

A concrete example would help me a lot

Thank you in advance

[Warichet]

from sdkdoc-0.0.4.pdf, page 162:

Yes, I did RTFM, but didn't get it.

Guess thats not what's you're after:

Good guess, Sir

not possible

HS is an EIBlib/IP (aka iETS) Server, eibd is and needs either a KNXnet/IP Routing or Tunneling Server.

OK, now that you say it ... I remember to have read it many times here.

you can do the other way around, use eibd as KNXnet/IP Routing Server for the HS

Looks nice, although I don't fully understand all the implications.
It's still about the Visu on the Cisco phones.... so, I'll try it

This is due to the design of the interface and probably the reason why HS etc. only supports FT1.2.

OK, that's why I though using the HS as gateway was a goog idea, so using the FT 1.2 instead of the BCU1 I'm using right now.


Thank very much for sharing your experience, much appreciated

[makki]

Now, what do you try to achieve with groupsresponse ?

from sdkdoc-0.0.4.pdf, page 162:

groupsresponse Send a GroupValue Response response message to a group address (for values with less than 6 bit width)

Means, if you implement i.e. an actuator ontop of eibd, you use this to send the response back to the bus after you received a "read" telegram.
Guess thats not what's you're after:

wg1-mm:~# groupreadresponse ip:localhost 1/1/11
Send request
Read from 1.1.254
Response from 1.1.33: 01

Send a read request to the bus and waits for the response.

Is it supposed to work ?

Like a charm

Now, I'd like to remove the serial cable and use the HS as IP gateway.

Two words: not possible.
HS is an EIBlib/IP (aka iETS) Server, eibd is and needs either a KNXnet/IP Routing or Tunneling Server.
But if you're brave you can do the other way around, use eibd as KNXnet/IP Routing Server for the HS
for this you start "eibd -i -R <backend>" (or enable all with "eibd -S -D -i -T -c -d -u <backend>"
but only if you have NO OTHER IP-Router in this segment! otherwise: possible loop..

On a side note, I just had to find this out again the hard way, (and being told by Martin Koegler again)
the BCU1-driver is in general not what I'd "suppose to work". It has many problems, it's simply no good choice for anything else than playing around and getting frustrated once in a while.
This is due to the design of the interface and probably the reason why HS etc. only supports FT1.2.

USB,FT1.2, IP Routing or Tunneling works fine. And TP-UART, I received mine today, and can confirm since 10 minutes at least: together with the right TTL/RS232 level-converter you get a fine bus-connection for eibd for ~50 EUR

Makki

[Warichet]

Assuming eibd is running and startet with "-u"
groupswrite local:/tmp/eib 1/1/11 1 (send 1 to GA 1/1/11)
Alternatively through IP (-i)
groupswrite ip:127.0.0.1 1/1/11 1

So far, I've been able to issue a groupswrite and switch on a lamp via a serial I/F & BCU1.
Although I've been unable to get a status feedback via the groupsresponse. Is it supposed to work ? If yes, any example of the syntax ?

Now, I'd like to remove the serial cable and use the HS as IP gateway. I guess this is feasable.
Would someone be so kind to provide the way to start eibd with IP enabled ? and eventually an example of the groupswrite command for IP.
My HS is setup with ports 50000, 50001, 50002.

The doc is really scarce about examples.

Thank you very much

[Warichet]

To make bad things worse

As this is copyrighted / restricted software, there is AFAIK no (legal) way to get this files for free.

Restrictions

• Localization is not supported for SIP phones.
• Phone firmware, configuration files, and locale files must be in the same directory, except the directory file for Japanese and Russian which must be in flash memory.

So, no "Rez de chaussée" or "Temperaturfühler" , but plain "rez de chaussee" or Temperaturfuhler (hurts the eye)

[makki]

@Warichet: so, your're through with it, 9 days, not bad

I fear there's not much more than the many things here in the forum&wiki your probably already know, the bcusdk-list on sourceforge.
Otherwise just ask, there are many guys around here using it..

Although not related directly to eibd, maybe this is definitely worth to be mentioned again. It's the IMHO most excellent free document on all details of EIB you (n)ever wanted to know about..

Makki

[Warichet]

The whole story here

OK
Can you recommend other readings for an eibd newbee, please ?

Thanks

[MarkusS]

Those jar-Files are part of the so called phone-loads. A phone-load is a software-package containing the phone-firmware and all necessary additional files for the phones. e.g. the locales (language files) in a call manager environment.

Those files are available for download on cisco.com, but you need "special file access", which means you have to have a maintenance contract e.g. for a call manager or you have to be cisco-partner (at least silver-level) to get access.

As this is copyrighted / restricted software, there is AFAIK no (legal) way to get this files for free.

[Warichet]

The SEP[MAC].cfg is a Cisco-File - SEP stands for Selsius Ethernet Phone

Nice to know, I love those bits of computer history

The format of the CFG-file is described in the documentation / developer guide

Most probably, but those Cisco docs are a maze (I hear someone laughing).

In the mean time, I learned that parameters "userLocale" and "langCode" have to be filled-in, as Makki already mentionned before.
I'm still missing a file called "td-sip.jar" generated by the Call Manager and specific to the language used, french in my case.
btw, the phone displays an error at boot time about this locale.

someone having access to a Call Manager is able to help out.

Hope so

you have to decide if you want to go for SIP or for SCCP.

I'll go for SIP