Russound RIO Protokoll

[makki]

@marco: just on a side note, I don't have/know the newer ones with RIO, but the "TCP-problem" ist an unfamous "HS-feature", any linux-box running socat in between might already help out here - no need for a costly moxa..

Makki

[marco0305]

Hi Makki,

I know of this problem with the HS. I wish they would do something about it.
I also do program Philips pronto for a hobby. Unfortunatly they stopped making them. The scripting is very powerfull. So something similar for the HS would be nice to have.
A lot more products use a telnet interface for control and feedback. The only way now is a box in between. A missed opportunity!
If they could implement, this would open a lot of possibilities.

Marco

BTW. Russound could also fix this by giving us the option to send the feedback on a different port. They are also KNX member.

[domoticom]

After trying to get HS controlling MCA-C5 via Moxa (using the sample project from DaCom) I gave up, and started to work on the more modern solution:RIO over IP

Giving RIO commands from Putty via port 9621 works fine.

But when trying to send the same command from HS, it fails.
WHen looking into the debug list, I can see the command being send to poer 9621 of the MCA-C5 but then it doesn't execute the command.

So there's a difference in the command being send from Putty or HS

the command I use as an example (switch on zone 1 on controller 1:
event c[1].z[1]!zoneon

[domoticom]

update: when I create a send ip/eib telegram communication object in the HS and send this including CR & LF it works. So I gues I need a CR and LF.
Are there escape codes possible to include this in a string ?

[goeran]

Hello everybody,

I did this the same way (with CR/LF).

I understand that a persitent TCP-connection from HS to Russound C5 might be run into trouble, but I can't see such problems after two days of testing.

The HS is sending RIO-comands via Port 9621 to the C5 chassis.

What will be the problem? Does the connections stay open or half-closed? Don't they expire?

Will the HS open a new connection to the Russound for every comand?

[marco0305]

Hi Goeran,

did you had any succes with the feedback from the Russound?
I haven't worked on the integration with the russound for a while. I can control but haven't figured out the feedback yet.

Marco

[goeran]

Hello Marco,

no, I haven't worked on this topic yet. I like to do, but there is a lack of time, actually.

But what I see is, that there is still no problem after weeks of operating with TCP-connection from HS to Russound. So, unfortunately I cannot understand how this could run into trouble.

Did you spend some time with feedback from Russound to Gira HS?

[marco0305]

Hi Goeran,
I worked on it a while ago. I use a moxa for the moment.
The parsing is not complete but I do get feedback although is through rs232 to moxa using UDP.

There is a problem with TCP on the HS. It will sent the command to the Russound but will keep the connection for 10s until a timeout occurs. So the Russound can't sent his response. At least that is what I understand from what I read on this forum.

It can be resolved with some Python scripting but I'm not a programmer. So I started reading up on it but it's a steep learning curve. It's also understanding TCP and what both devices do and don't.

The HS needs a good telnet server so a few issues can be resolved with other equipment too!
Apparently Gira can't be asked to make a workable telnet module! No idea why but that I was told by one of the specialists on this forum.