HS/FS Siri API for the Gira HomeServer app

[migabc]

Hi,

Now that Apple has provided a Siri API to developers with the SiriKit (https://developer.apple.com/sirikit/) which enables the power of voice control to 3rd-party apps, it would be great if Gira could provide an upgrade of the HomeServer app with such a feature.

When can we expect to see Siri voice control in these types of applications?
Or will Apple limit these types of voice commands exclusively to Apple Homekit enabled devices? If that is the case then the HomeBridge (sort of gateway between KNX and Apple HomeKit) could be an alternative solution.
Anyway, I think the first option (SIRI API for 3rd-party apps) is a much simpler approach for Gira.

Does anybody have any news on this?

Sorry for this post in English.
Google translation below:

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Hallo,

Nun, da Apple eine Siri-API für Entwickler mit dem Sirikit zur Verfügung gestellt hat (https://developer.apple.com/sirikit/), die die Macht der Sprachsteuerung zu 3rd-Party-Anwendungen ermöglicht, wäre es toll, wenn Gira ein Upgrade zur Verfügung stellen könnte der Homeserver App mit einer solchen Funktion.

Wann können wir mit Siri Sprachsteuerung in diese Arten von Anwendungen erwarten?
Oder wird Apple diese Art von Stimme beschränken sich ausschließlich auf Apple-HomeKit fähigen Geräten Befehle? Wenn das der Fall ist, dann ist die Homebridge (eine Art Gateway zwischen KNX und Apple HomeKit) könnte eine alternative Lösung sein.
Wie auch immer, ich denke, die erste Option (SIRI API für 3rd-Party-Anwendungen) ist eine einfachere Methode, um Gira.

Hat jemand eine Nachricht auf das?

[Hightech]

Hi Miguel!

Welcome at KNX-User-Forum!

Posting in English is no problem here, many "foreign" users do this - as long it isn't in chinese or something like that you will get answers :-)

Such an enhancement of the GIRA app would be great but unfortunately GIRA often is very slow at implementing new features. But be sure: If they have first thougts about that, you will read it here as some GIRA beta testers are very active here in the forum and also the guys of GIRA support and product management are present here!

So: Stay tuned!

Best regards

Olaf

[migabc]

Thanks for your feedback on this.
I sent the same query to Gira Customer Services and have just received the following reply which in fact does not tell us much.

. . .we forwarded you message to our product management. We cannot assure you whether it will be a future solution or not. However, we will analyze it and inform you once we have a clear decision

I really hope they will implement this.
Let’s wait and see.

[Hightech]

In Germany there is an idiom "abwarten und Tee trinken" - "just wait and drink tea" - hope you have very much tea in the house Even if GIRA announced products they usually postpone the ready-to-sales date many times!

[migabc]

lol
Yes, I know. :-(
But if they want to be in par with their competitors they should really roll-out this new feature as soon as possible (There’s a quite high marketing demand for voice activation)
It will also be much appreciated by their clients ;-)

[maeckes]

I also thought about Gira Homeserver and HomeKit.
But there are so many open issues which Gira announced years ago.... I have only slight hope for a contemporary integration of Homeserver-features into HomeKit.

Best example - ColorPicker

Or Gira is developing in completely different direction and is focusing on HomeKit or something other which is completely new and the Gira Homeserver-App is deferred.
Would be nice - but my expectations are the same like above

[migabc]

Hi,

Regarding this subject, has anyone tried out this Homebridge?
https://github.com/nfarina/homebridge

It is basically a Linux server software program that emulates an iOS HomeKit device and provides a gateway (bridge) to various 3rd-party smart-home systems.
So since this Homebridge software is actually an iOS HomeKit device it can actually receive the Apple Homekit commands (via Siri voice commands).
Once it receives those commands it then translates them and relays them to the 3rd party system

In order to interact with the 3rd party systems the Homebridge supports Plugins for several types of smart-home systems.

Here's the KNX plugin:
https://www.npmjs.com/package/homebridge-knx

This plugin communicates with a knx daemon (knxd) for relaying KNX messages. This knxd is basically a listener that receives the KNX messages on a TCP/IP network and then relays them over to the KNX bus.

Does anybody know if the Gira Homeserver provides such a knxd?

If the Gira Homeserver does not have a knxd then it will be necessary to install one on your network, like this one:
https://github.com/knxd/knxd

On my current installation I have a Homeserver 4.0 and DCS IP gateway.
Is it possible to integrate this Homebridge, KNS plugin and knx deamon on my current network, or will it require additional Hardware?


Thanks for your thoughts.

Merry Christmas :-)

Regards,
Miguel

[vento66]

Have a look at this tread: https://knx-user-forum.de/forum/%C3%...ekit-interface. And yes, you need additional Hardware.

[migabc]

Hi,

Thanks for the link.
Nice, I See that you are already working on this :-)
I'm gonna google-translate that thread and try to read it.

Btw, what additional hardware will I need?
Will I be able to map all my current components

Thanks,
Miguel

[vento66]

The initial Thread is here:https://knx-user-forum.de/forum/%C3%...heimautomation. Installation on a Raspi2 / B is easy.

I found my notes for the installation: (without eibd or knxd)

sudo apt-get update -y
sudo apt-get upgrade -y
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y

sudo apt-get install libavahi-compat-libdnssd-dev git -y

wget https://nodejs.org/dist/v6.9.1/node-v6.9.1-linux-armv6l.tar.gz
tar -xvf node-v6.9.1-linux-armv6l.tar.gz 
cd node-v6.9.1-linux-armv6l
sudo cp -R * /usr/local/
node -v

sudo npm install mdns
sudo npm install homebridge
sudo npm install homebridge-knx

[migabc]

Thanks for your notes.
Besides a Linux server for installing the Homebridge and plug-ins what additional Hardware will I need?

Thanks again.

[vento66]

An IP interface, or an IP-Router or an USB-KNX interface.

[migabc]

An IP interface, or an IP-Router or an USB-KNX interface.

My Gira Homeserver 4.0 already has that.
Since the HS is in fact a Linux server, can't the home bridge be installed on it?

[vento66]

Try it On each new project activation, the flash will be formated...

[migabc]

OK, thanks for the heads-up.
So probably the cheapest option is to get the USB-KNX interface like the one I have for the Gira HomeServer?

Gira

107000

gira-107000-usb-datenschnittstelle-up_107000_2.jpg
Or are there other cheaper options?

Sorry for the lame questions but I'm still a newbie ;-)