OpenWRT - EIBD - Linknx - PHP

[jef2000]

root@OpenWrt:~# ls -l /dev/tty*
crw-r--r-- 1 root root 5, 0 Jan 1 01:00 /dev/tty
crw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 64 Jan 1 01:00 /dev/ttyS0
crw-r--r-- 1 root root 4, 65 Jan 1 01:00 /dev/ttyS1

root@OpenWrt:~# eibd -u ft12:/dev/ttyS0 -t1023
Layer 1(004DC688,386D43C2) Open
Layer 1(004DC688,386D43C2) Opened
Layer 2(004ECA18,386D43C2) Open
Layer 2(004ECA18,386D43C2) Opened
Layer 3(004FCD48,386D43C2) Open
Layer 2(004ECA18,386D43C2) OpenL2
Layer 1(004DC688,386D43C2) SendReset
Layer 1(004DC688,386D43C2) Send(007): A9 1E 12 34 56 78 9A
Layer 0(004DC688,386D43C2) Send(004): 10 40 40 16
Layer 1(004DC688,386D43C2) Send(007): A9 00 18 34 56 78 0A
Layer 0(004DC688,386D43C2) Recv(003): 40 40 16
Layer 0(004DC688,386D43C2) Send(004): 10 40 40 16
Layer 0(004DC688,386D43C2) Recv(003): 40 40 16
Layer 0(004DC688,386D43C2) Send(004): 10 40 40 16
Layer 0(004DC688,386D43C2) Recv(004): 40 40 40 16
Layer 0(004DC688,386D43C2) Recv(015): 0A 0A 42 75 73 79 42 6F 78 20 76 31 2E 34 2E
Layer 0(004DC688,386D43C2) Recv(018): 32 20 28 32 30 30 37 2D 30 35 2D 31 34 20 32 31 3A 35
Layer 0(004DC688,386D43C2) Recv(017): 30 3A 35 32 20 43 45 53 54 29 20 42 75 69 6C 74 2D

I suppose that you have put the wire between RX and TX for this test.
If it's the case, it confirms that the port is /dev/ttyS0 and that we can send and receive through it.
I was expecting to receive exactly what we have sent, but the last 3 "Recv(...):" lines contain something else. I converted the hex data of these three lines, and got "BusyBox v1.4.2 (2007-05-14 21:50:52 CEST) Built-...". This is a console message. Because the serial port is by default connected to a console to allow people to connect it to a PC (with hyperterminal for example) and see the messages when the system is booting. Here is seems that EIBD and the console are both using the serial port at the same time and they end up talking to each other.
The serial console is started by a line in /etc/inittab file that looks like this:
tts/0::askfirst:/bin/ash --login
You'll have to remove it or comment it by putting a # at the beginning of the line.
Once you removed it, restart the router and try again (be careful, doing something wrong there could block completely the router, ask first if you're not sure)

root@OpenWrt:/# knxswrite ip:127.0.0.1 1/1/1 0
Open failed: Connection refused

So...it cant acess to Loopback!! or EIBD is not running!

Yes EIBD is not running or at least not running with network sockets.
If you want to access eibd with "knxswrite ip:127.0.0.1 1/1/1 0", you must start eibd with -i option instead of -u to enable network sockets instead of unix sockets.

When you start EIBD without the -d option (e.g. "eibd -u ft12:/dev/ttyS0 -t1023"), it will display the log messages, but EIBD will stop when you do <ctrl>-C. To have EIBD running, you can start it in one command window, and open another command window to start knxswrite in parallel. Or you can start eibd with -d option, but then you don't see the messages.
To check if EIBD is running, you can do "ps ax | grep eibd" and see if there is a line corresponding to it.

Like i said..i want to connect trought internet somewhere at work, connecting to my Asus router (cable provider) at home, that is also connected to Dlink DSL router (ADSL is not connected) by switch ports that have EIBD and www page inside that Dlink router.


What should i check then..EIBD is not running..right?

That should be possible, but we have to do it in the right order. First focus on eibd. When it's running, we'll look at linknx, then the web server, PHP and finally remote connection via internet.

Another question, how did you connect the serial port to the bus coupler (5wg1 114-2AB02)?


Regards,

Jean-François

[Goahead]

I suppose that you have put the wire between RX and TX for this test.
If it's the case, it confirms that the port is /dev/ttyS0 and that we can send and receive through it.
I was expecting to receive exactly what we have sent, but the last 3 "Recv(...):" lines contain something else. I converted the hex data of these three lines, and got "BusyBox v1.4.2 (2007-05-14 21:50:52 CEST) Built-...". This is a console message. Because the serial port is by default connected to a console to allow people to connect it to a PC (with hyperterminal for example) and see the messages when the system is booting.

Yes i connected TX with RX
Log was bigger but i cut the text...
Meanwhile it stops after some seconds sending and receiving and i have to kill it with crtl+c

Here is seems that EIBD and the console are both using the serial port at the same time and they end up talking to each other.
The serial console is started by a line in /etc/inittab file that looks like this:
tts/0::askfirst:/bin/ash --login
You'll have to remove it or comment it by putting a # at the beginning of the line.
Once you removed it, restart the router and try again (be careful, doing something wrong there could block completely the router, ask first if you're not sure)

Correct i can acess router with hyperterminal (SSH)
Ill correct this.

Yes EIBD is not running or at least not running with network sockets.
If you want to access eibd with "knxswrite ip:127.0.0.1 1/1/1 0", you must start eibd with -i option instead of -u to enable network sockets instead of unix sockets.

When you start EIBD without the -d option (e.g. "eibd -u ft12:/dev/ttyS0 -t1023"), it will display the log messages, but EIBD will stop when you do <ctrl>-C. To have EIBD running, you can start it in one command window, and open another command window to start knxswrite in parallel. Or you can start eibd with -d option, but then you don't see the messages.
To check if EIBD is running, you can do "ps ax | grep eibd" and see if there is a line corresponding to it.

Ill check it at home..dont have router here
If its not running or not in the list..then how do i enable it on startup?

That should be possible, but we have to do it in the right order. First focus on eibd. When it's running, we'll look at linknx, then the web server, PHP and finally remote connection via internet.

Another question, how did you connect the serial port to the bus coupler (5wg1 114-2AB02)?

Maybe ill use your suggested schematic
http://ouaye.net/linknx/bcu-interfac...-interface.png
Or maybe the one with some resistors that i think is in this thread..

Do you have another sugestion to connect UART do Busankoppler?


Regards
Goahead

[jef2000]

Ill check it at home..dont have router here
If its not running or not in the list..then how do i enable it on startup?

If you have the script /etc/init.d/S70linknx , eibd will be started automatically ( change /dev/tts/0 to /dev/ttyS0 ).
But as long as it's not fully working, it's better to open a shell on the router, start eibd manually with "eibd -i ft12:/dev/ttyS0 -t1023", and let it run in its own window, then open a second shell on the router and try "knxswrite ip:127.0.0.1 1/1/1 0" on it.

Maybe ill use your suggested schematic
http://ouaye.net/linknx/bcu-interfac...-interface.png
Or maybe the one with some resistors that i think is in this thread..

Do you have another sugestion to connect UART do Busankoppler?

The resistor interface from this thread is fine. My interface with optocouplers is better for paranoids like me.

Regards,

Jean-François

[Goahead]

If you have the script /etc/init.d/S70linknx , eibd will be started automatically ( change /dev/tts/0 to /dev/ttyS0 ).
But as long as it's not fully working, it's better to open a shell on the router, start eibd manually with "eibd -i ft12:/dev/ttyS0 -t1023", and let it run in its own window, then open a second shell on the router and try "knxswrite ip:127.0.0.1 1/1/1 0" on it.

After disable com1 for busybox and reboot, test is done.

First Putty Window:
eibd -i ft12:/dev/ttyS0 -t1023

Second Putty window and Connected RX with TX:
root@OpenWrt:~# knxswrite ip:127.0.0.1 1/1/1 0
Send request

First window again:
Layer 8(004FCE90,386D450F) New Connection
Layer 8(004FCED0,386D450F) ClientConnection Init
Layer 8(004FCED0,386D450F) RecvMessage(005): 00 22 09 01 FF
Layer 7(0052DDD8,386D450F) OpenGroup
Layer 4(004FCF18,386D450F) OpenGroup 1/1/1 WO
Layer 8(004FCED0,386D450F) SendMessage(002): 00 22
Layer 8(004FCED0,386D450F) RecvMessage(004): 00 25 00 80
Layer 7(0052DDD8,386D450F) Send(002): 00 80
Layer 4(004FCF18,386D450F) Send Group T_DATA_XXX_REQ A_GroupValue_Write (small) 00
Layer 3(004FCD48,386D450F) Send L_Data low from 0.0.0 to 1/1/1 hops: 07 T_DATA_XXX_REQ A_GroupValue_Write (small) 00
Layer 2(004ECA18,386D450F) Send L_Data low from 0.0.0 to 1/1/1 hops: 07 T_DATA_XXX_REQ A_GroupValue_Write (small) 00
Layer 1(004DC688,386D450F) Send(009): 11 0C 00 00 09 01 F1 00 80
Layer 0(004DC688,386D450F) Send(016): 68 0A 0A 68 53 11 0C 00 00 09 01 F1 00 80 EB 16
Layer 7(0052DDD8,386D450F) CloseGroup
Layer 2(004ECA18,386D450F) Recv L_Data low from 0.0.0 to 1/1/1 hops: 07 T_DATA_XXX_REQ A_GroupValue_Write (small) 00
Layer 3(004FCD48,386D450F) Recv L_Data low from 0.0.0 to 1/1/1 hops: 07 T_DATA_XXX_REQ A_GroupValue_Write (small) 00
Layer 0(004DC688,386D450F) Recv(005): 68 0A 0A 68 53
Layer 4(004FCF18,386D450F) CloseGroup
Layer 3(004FCD48,386D450F) deregisterGroupCallBack 004FCF18 = 0
Layer 8(004FCED0,386D450F) ClientConnection closed
Layer 0(004DC688,386D450F) Recv(011): 11 0C 00 00 09 01 F1 00 80 EB 16
Layer 0(004DC688,386D450F) Send Ack(001): E5
Layer 0(004DC688,386D450F) Recv(001): E5


Is this all Ok?..it seems to me
So next step..How do i enable eibd at start?
What should S70Linknx file have?

If EIBD ok..then lets begin second stage...

Once again...
Merci Beaucoup François
Regards from Portugal
Goahead

[jef2000]

Is this all Ok?..it seems to me

I don't see anything wrong here. But you didn't test it with the bus coupler, right? Now you still have to make the resistor adapter and connect to the bus coupler to see if you can switch lights on or off.

So next step..How do i enable eibd at start?
What should S70Linknx file have?

If EIBD ok..then lets begin second stage...

My S70Linknx file contains this:

#!/bin/sh
sleep 30
/usr/bin/eibd -i -e 0.1.100 -d ft12:/dev/tts/1
sleep 2
mkdir /tmp/lib
cd /tmp/lib
ln -s /usr/var/lib/linknx/ linknx

cd /tmp/log && knxlog ip:127.0.0.1 &

linknx -c -w -d

lighttpd -f /etc/knx/lighttpd-fcgi.conf
lighttpd -f /etc/knx/lighttpd-fcgi-auth.conf

The first line "sleep 30" waits 30 seconds. It's not really necessary, but I added it to be sure that the router has booted and received re-synchronized its clock with the network time and date before knxlog starts to avoid strange timestamps in the logs.

The second line "/usr/bin/eibd -i -e 0.1.100 -d ft12:/dev/tts/1" starts eibd, you'll have to change the serial port name to /dev/ttyS0.
Type "eibd --help" to have more info about command line options

Then wait again 2 seconds

The next 3 lines create a symlink from /var/lib/linknx (on the ramdisk) to /usr/var/lib/linknx (on the flash). This location will be used to store config and persistent data if needed. If /usr/var/lib/linknx doesn't exist, you'll have to create it and put your config file "linknx.xml" there.
You can find all the information needed to configure linknx.xml here:
http://linknx.wiki.sourceforge.net/Configuration
And an example here:
http://linknx.cvs.sourceforge.net/li...ml?view=markup

The line "cd /tmp/log && knxlog ip:127.0.0.1 &" is not mandatory. I use it to log all the group object messages in files. If you use it, be careful to delete the log files periodically, otherwise they will fill all your router's memory and it will crash.

Line "linknx -c -w -d" starts linknx. You can also use "linknx -c -w -d/tmp/log/linknx.log" to log all messages to a file, but again, be careful to clean it regularly.
Type "linknx --help" to have more info about command line options

The last 2 lines start the web server.
The first one start a server listening on a TCP port only reachable from my home network and has no login/password. The second one start a server on another TCP port reachable from the internet (I've put a port forwarding rule in my ADSL modem/router config) and asks for a login/password

Regards,

Jean-François

[Goahead]

Cant find any diagram or schematic for the resistor type connection!
Translation German to English is a bit tricky...
So... In BCU:
A resistor of 45.3K in pin 6 to enable FT1.2
1K series TX (BCU) to RX UART to limit current and not burn UART RX?
Direct connection RX UART to TX BCU?
Will +/-3V3P from UART to BCU detect a signal "1" instead of "0"?
A saw somewhere that it should be at least 4V2P to be considered a "1" in a BCU...but maybe it depends on BCU.

Maybe i should use the 2 transistor solution..
Je suis un peu paranoïaque comme vous

Let me read a little more about xml...but...
Maybe you could explain with a simple example of ON/OFF of a groupadress the configuration of html->php->XML

Isnt Knxweb simpler? doesnt it create all xml, php code needed with simple user html interface?

Can i make a memorie image of my router (fs, Kernel, aplication and configurations) all in one .bin for future flash or even to share it to other users of DSL-504T that are beginners just like me?
(the only thing to change is the xml and file in www directory)

regards
Goahead

[Goahead]

Bcu2uart 74hct125

Hi All

- Resistors circuit found in thread is definetly the easyest solution...but depends on BCU internal resistors and UART input resistors on chip..so i would not call it a generic solution...and also a bit risky.
- François Circuit is the best isolation circuit ...but it has to many components and solder points.. not a simple DIY.

So...after some thinking a present you an ideia circuit in attachement...

Simulation seems to be ok...
I will mount and test it later, but maybe someone can already point me some disavantages or some issue in this circuit.

It only has 2 resistors and one 0.50cts chip that can be found in any electronic store.

shoot me then...

Regards
Goahead

[jef2000]

Cant find any diagram or schematic for the resistor type connection!
Translation German to English is a bit tricky...
So... In BCU:
A resistor of 45.3K in pin 6 to enable FT1.2
1K series TX (BCU) to RX UART to limit current and not burn UART RX?
Direct connection RX UART to TX BCU?
Will +/-3V3P from UART to BCU detect a signal "1" instead of "0"?
A saw somewhere that it should be at least 4V2P to be considered a "1" in a BCU...but maybe it depends on BCU.

Maybe i should use the 2 transistor solution..
Je suis un peu paranoïaque comme vous

About the resistor interface, I don't know more than what's in this forum.

Let me read a little more about xml...but...
Maybe you could explain with a simple example of ON/OFF of a groupadress the configuration of html->php->XML

Isnt Knxweb simpler? doesnt it create all xml, php code needed with simple user html interface?

KnxWeb is still under development, it's not a "production quality" solution that you just install and use.
The XML configuration file needed by linknx must be created manually. In the future, we will add an interface to modify it in knxweb.

Can i make a memorie image of my router (fs, Kernel, aplication and configurations) all in one .bin for future flash or even to share it to other users of DSL-504T that are beginners just like me?
(the only thing to change is the xml and file in www directory)

I never did it, but it must be possible.
That's a question you would better ask on OpenWRT forum... If it's not already explained in the OpenWRT documentation.

Regards,

Jean-François

[jef2000]

It only has 2 resistors and one 0.50cts chip that can be found in any electronic store.

shoot me then...

Looks good.
What will be the power supply of 74HCT125? VDD or VCC.

Regards,

Jean-François

[Goahead]

VCC=5VP

I didnt test it yet...
I thought that i had one chip at home..but i didnt find it...
Have to go to store to buy one chip to build the circuit...but im almost shure it will work.

Ill post the results...

Then ..you will need to continue helping me creating xml file and web interface

Regards from Portugal
What a sunny day with 20º...smells like spring today.

Goahead

[daniel.duese]

Hallo jef2000 und alle Forum- Mitglieder

wie kann ich WebNKX 0.2 mit LinKNX koppeln ?

Jch habe OpenSUSE 10.3 auf einen Laptop installiert.

eibd lauft mit dem Parametern eibd –D –T –S –i –d ft12:/dev/ttyS0 (auch Zugriff mit der ETS3)

LinKNX lauft mit dem Parametern: usr/bin/ linknx –c –d –w

xampp php/Apache Web- Server ist installiert

in den Ordner htdocs habe ich alle Dateien von WebKNX hineinkopiert


http://duse.duse.de über Internet (DNS Dienst muss noch angepasst werden!)

http://localhost LOKAL



Ich kann aber bei z.B. „Neuer Schalter“ nichts auswahlen.

Die linknx.xml habe ich erstmal zu testen belassen und nur die Gruppenadressen an meinen EIB angepasst.

Wohin muss ich die linknx.xml kopieren ???

[harryhirsch3]

Wohin muss ich die linknx.xml kopieren ???

Wenn Du LinKNX mit dem Parameter -c aurufst dann muss die LinKNX nach /var/lib/linknx/linknx.xml. Der Parameter "-c" gibt nämlich genau den Pfad an, wo Deine linknx.xml liegt.

MfG

Daniel

[daniel.duese]

...das habe ich alles gemacht, auch die Rechte habe ich gesetzt. Nur habe ich das Gefühl, dass WebKNX nicht auf die linknx.xml zugreift oder nicht zugreifen kann...

Werde mal OpenSuse 10.2 installieren.

[jef2000]

Hallo,

In KnxWeb 2.0 Datei linknx.php, ist host=127.0.0.1 und port=1028 hard-coded.

Du musst wahrscheinlich
<xmlserver type="inet" port="1028"/>

im Abschnitt "services" von linknx XML config addieren.

Gruss,

Jean-François

[jef2000]

die linknx.php habe ich bearbeitet. 127.0.0.1 habe ich geändert.

Die linknx.xml habe ich original gelassen. Es ist Deine Version.

Den PHP skript kann nicht linknx erreichen.

Wenn linknx und php auf dem selben Rechner laüfen, musst du nichts in linknx.php ändern.

Wenn du "netstat -a" auführt, musst du eine Linie wie:
tcp 0 0 *:1028 *:* LISTEN
im ausgang sehen. Wenn es nicht so ist, kannst du linknx ohne "-d" starten und log Augang hier posten.

Du kannst auch mal versuchen "telnet 127.0.0.1 1028" auszuführen. Und wenn (ob) du einloggen bist "<read><config><rules/></config></read> [enter][CTRL-d]"

Gruss,