Cisco 7970 + Asterisk + HS + Visu

[jef2000]

Hi,

I already have an asterisk box and an ATA (FXS/FXO) and plan to add some IP phones. Of course, I don't have the budget to buy 7970 except if somebody explains how to get them with 90% rebate ;-)
I'm thinking about a more universal approach simply using the phone keypad and some key combinations to activate the most-used KNX functions.

Does someboody know how to interafce asterisk with external apps? Is it possible to have something like a TCP or UDP connection and send/receive text messages?

Regards,

Jean-François

[NilsS]

Of course, I don't have the budget to buy 7970 except if somebody explains how to get them with 90% rebate ;-)

you can look for the old non Gigabit Cisco Phones from the 79xx series.
The should be around 120-200€, depending on model. you can use the xml menu mentioned above with not too much effort.

[makki]

Maybe at this point a hint for cheaper new and used Cisco equipment.
I'm not aasociated with them in any way but made good experiences as supplier..

Makki

[Warichet]

How can I display the french character set on the phone ?

Hi,

I know the question is a bit OT, but maybe you don't mind ....
How can I display the french character set on the 7970 phone ?
Pure US ASCII is no problem, but things like "é" or "è" are displayed as an empty square (although no problem in the HS Visu ).
How do you guys manage the umlaut ?

I've RTFM, the doc says:

NoteCisco Unified IP Phones support the full ISO 8859-1 (Latin 1) and Shift_JIS character sets.

I've set the following line in the xml file, I guess I miss something

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>

But this is per file. I was expecting a seeting per phone.
Is there any directive to set the phone in ISO 8859 ?
I checked SEP<Mac> config, no luck.

Thank you.

PS: maybe there is a more appropriate forum, if so, please be so kind to redirect me, instead of me bothering everyone with dumb OT questions from a crummy dummy

[makki]

@Warichet: AFAIR this was dependent on the configured user-locale, maybe also UTF-8 is worth a try.. See here under "Accept-Charset"

Makki

[Warichet]

See here under "Accept-Charset"

Thank you for the quick reply.
Didn't get it, seems to be used in a programming context (not applicable here). I think I'm looking in the wrong document(s).
I should have been more acurate in my question, sooo
where can I find the doc about the phone config file ?
i.e. SEP<Mac address>.cnf.xml

Is it a Cisco file or an Asterisk file ? I guess an Asterisk file ...

[makki]

I have no decent link on this, maybe someone else. At least not or only partially from Cisco, I guess as you should use the CCM-crap with their phones
Start here maybe someone else has a better link on this..

Makki

[MarkusS]

The SEP[MAC].cfg is a Cisco-File - SEP stands for Selsius Ethernet Phone - Selsius was the Company that "invented" SCCP and had a almost finished product "Call Manager" and some IP-Phones, Cisco acquired Celsius 1998.

The format of the CFG-file is described in the documentation / developer guide, if not, someone having access to a Call Manager is able to help out. The content of the cfg-File differs from SCCP- to SIP-Phone-Loads so you have to decide if you want to go for SIP or for SCCP.

[Warichet]

The SEP[MAC].cfg is a Cisco-File - SEP stands for Selsius Ethernet Phone

Nice to know, I love those bits of computer history

The format of the CFG-file is described in the documentation / developer guide

Most probably, but those Cisco docs are a maze (I hear someone laughing).

In the mean time, I learned that parameters "userLocale" and "langCode" have to be filled-in, as Makki already mentionned before.
I'm still missing a file called "td-sip.jar" generated by the Call Manager and specific to the language used, french in my case.
btw, the phone displays an error at boot time about this locale.

someone having access to a Call Manager is able to help out.

Hope so

you have to decide if you want to go for SIP or for SCCP.

I'll go for SIP

[MarkusS]

Those jar-Files are part of the so called phone-loads. A phone-load is a software-package containing the phone-firmware and all necessary additional files for the phones. e.g. the locales (language files) in a call manager environment.

Those files are available for download on cisco.com, but you need "special file access", which means you have to have a maintenance contract e.g. for a call manager or you have to be cisco-partner (at least silver-level) to get access.

As this is copyrighted / restricted software, there is AFAIK no (legal) way to get this files for free.

[Warichet]

The whole story here

OK
Can you recommend other readings for an eibd newbee, please ?

Thanks

[makki]

@Warichet: so, your're through with it, 9 days, not bad

I fear there's not much more than the many things here in the forum&wiki your probably already know, the bcusdk-list on sourceforge.
Otherwise just ask, there are many guys around here using it..

Although not related directly to eibd, maybe this is definitely worth to be mentioned again. It's the IMHO most excellent free document on all details of EIB you (n)ever wanted to know about..

Makki

[Warichet]

To make bad things worse

As this is copyrighted / restricted software, there is AFAIK no (legal) way to get this files for free.

Restrictions

• Localization is not supported for SIP phones.
• Phone firmware, configuration files, and locale files must be in the same directory, except the directory file for Japanese and Russian which must be in flash memory.

So, no "Rez de chaussée" or "Temperaturfühler" , but plain "rez de chaussee" or Temperaturfuhler (hurts the eye)

[Warichet]

Assuming eibd is running and startet with "-u"
groupswrite local:/tmp/eib 1/1/11 1 (send 1 to GA 1/1/11)
Alternatively through IP (-i)
groupswrite ip:127.0.0.1 1/1/11 1

So far, I've been able to issue a groupswrite and switch on a lamp via a serial I/F & BCU1.
Although I've been unable to get a status feedback via the groupsresponse. Is it supposed to work ? If yes, any example of the syntax ?

Now, I'd like to remove the serial cable and use the HS as IP gateway. I guess this is feasable.
Would someone be so kind to provide the way to start eibd with IP enabled ? and eventually an example of the groupswrite command for IP.
My HS is setup with ports 50000, 50001, 50002.

The doc is really scarce about examples.

Thank you very much

[makki]

Now, what do you try to achieve with groupsresponse ?

from sdkdoc-0.0.4.pdf, page 162:

groupsresponse Send a GroupValue Response response message to a group address (for values with less than 6 bit width)

Means, if you implement i.e. an actuator ontop of eibd, you use this to send the response back to the bus after you received a "read" telegram.
Guess thats not what's you're after:

wg1-mm:~# groupreadresponse ip:localhost 1/1/11
Send request
Read from 1.1.254
Response from 1.1.33: 01

Send a read request to the bus and waits for the response.

Is it supposed to work ?

Like a charm

Now, I'd like to remove the serial cable and use the HS as IP gateway.

Two words: not possible.
HS is an EIBlib/IP (aka iETS) Server, eibd is and needs either a KNXnet/IP Routing or Tunneling Server.
But if you're brave you can do the other way around, use eibd as KNXnet/IP Routing Server for the HS
for this you start "eibd -i -R <backend>" (or enable all with "eibd -S -D -i -T -c -d -u <backend>"
but only if you have NO OTHER IP-Router in this segment! otherwise: possible loop..

On a side note, I just had to find this out again the hard way, (and being told by Martin Koegler again)
the BCU1-driver is in general not what I'd "suppose to work". It has many problems, it's simply no good choice for anything else than playing around and getting frustrated once in a while.
This is due to the design of the interface and probably the reason why HS etc. only supports FT1.2.

USB,FT1.2, IP Routing or Tunneling works fine. And TP-UART, I received mine today, and can confirm since 10 minutes at least: together with the right TTL/RS232 level-converter you get a fine bus-connection for eibd for ~50 EUR

Makki